Comments on: Drugs that Make You Ethical? http://www.boldlygo.org/76 Science Fiction, Philosophy, and the Future... Wed, 12 May 2010 15:44:50 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: J. Alden Page http://www.boldlygo.org/76/comment-page-1#comment-3576 J. Alden Page Mon, 04 May 2009 05:57:18 +0000 http://boldlygo.org/blog/76/#comment-3576 I understood that you were being funny and wasn't offended by the couch comment. I already had the couch when you wrote it :P. With help from my family this apartment got furnished pretty quickly. Sorry for the "wait till your on your own" bit in my reply. love you, I understood that you were being funny and wasn’t offended by the couch comment. I already had the couch when you wrote it :P . With help from my family this apartment got furnished pretty quickly. Sorry for the “wait till your on your own” bit in my reply.

love you,

]]> By: Seth http://www.boldlygo.org/76/comment-page-1#comment-2931 Seth Tue, 14 Apr 2009 14:34:01 +0000 http://boldlygo.org/blog/76/#comment-2931 Jared, The purpose of my post was to say that a society in which people were getting things like patience and respect through drugs would be corrupt. Im sorry about the couch comment I see that you got one. Jared,

The purpose of my post was to say that a society in which people were getting things like patience and respect through drugs would be corrupt. Im sorry about the couch comment I see that you got one.

]]> By: J. Alden Page http://www.boldlygo.org/76/comment-page-1#comment-2311 J. Alden Page Mon, 09 Mar 2009 06:37:06 +0000 http://boldlygo.org/blog/76/#comment-2311 Seth, Your perception of "21 year old wanna-be P.A.’s who cant afford a new couch" might change a bit when you start needing to pay for the things that you currently get for free--like rent/food/education. There could be a lot of unique personalities that are within the boundaries of being ethical. Unless you're using a strict defintion of ethical that requires everyone to have a certain "best" personality. People who take anti-depressants are still very unique from eachother. This would also probably be the case for people taking something that makes them more sympathetic. I'm not saying that people should start taking these drugs, because it's not something we know much about. But it's interesting that it is probably something we could choose to start doing. Seth,

Your perception of “21 year old wanna-be P.A.’s who cant afford a new couch” might change a bit when you start needing to pay for the things that you currently get for free–like rent/food/education.

There could be a lot of unique personalities that are within the boundaries of being ethical. Unless you’re using a strict defintion of ethical that requires everyone to have a certain “best” personality. People who take anti-depressants are still very unique from eachother. This would also probably be the case for people taking something that makes them more sympathetic. I’m not saying that people should start taking these drugs, because it’s not something we know much about. But it’s interesting that it is probably something we could choose to start doing.

]]> By: matt http://www.boldlygo.org/76/comment-page-1#comment-2309 matt Mon, 09 Mar 2009 02:10:26 +0000 http://boldlygo.org/blog/76/#comment-2309 In serenity, a drug is created on a well populated world to calm people down. It isn't released all at once, and, at first, it seems to work fabulously. However, to roughly ten percent of the population, it has the opposite effect. That ten percent steadily gets more aggressive and violent, while the rest gets more passive. Eventually, the passive people stop going to work, and the ten percent start becoming violent, killing everyone under it's passive effects. They're called the Reavers. In serenity, a drug is created on a well populated world to calm people down. It isn’t released all at once, and, at first, it seems to work fabulously. However, to roughly ten percent of the population, it has the opposite effect. That ten percent steadily gets more aggressive and violent, while the rest gets more passive. Eventually, the passive people stop going to work, and the ten percent start becoming violent, killing everyone under it’s passive effects. They’re called the Reavers.

]]> By: Seth P. http://www.boldlygo.org/76/comment-page-1#comment-2292 Seth P. Sat, 07 Mar 2009 02:14:26 +0000 http://boldlygo.org/blog/76/#comment-2292 I believe that a society in which you could take, lets say an intelligence increasing nasal spray would be a corrupt society. You would have "perfect" people, people who could buy everything from patience to empathy. And then you would have poeple who were imperfect like 21 year old wanna-be P.A.'s who cant afford a new couch that would be considered a lower class of people. That is if the drugs weren't in lets say coca-cola or Colgate toothpaste. Even then its still wrong, people are what they are and each person is unique funny and good because they maybe couldn't wait for something. Or because they get mad really easy. Or because laugh at the stupidest things. The only changing of the Human Genome in my opinion would be to prevent things such as cancer or asthma. I believe that a society in which you could take, lets say an intelligence increasing nasal spray would be a corrupt society. You would have “perfect” people, people who could buy everything from patience to empathy. And then you would have poeple who were imperfect like 21 year old wanna-be P.A.’s who cant afford a new couch that would be considered a lower class of people.

That is if the drugs weren’t in lets say coca-cola or Colgate toothpaste. Even then its still wrong, people are what they are and each person is unique funny and good because they maybe couldn’t wait for something. Or because they get mad really easy. Or because laugh at the stupidest things. The only changing of the Human Genome in my opinion would be to prevent things such as cancer or asthma.

]]> By: J. Alden Page http://www.boldlygo.org/76/comment-page-1#comment-1515 J. Alden Page Sat, 10 Jan 2009 01:19:18 +0000 http://boldlygo.org/blog/76/#comment-1515 I have, but it's been a while. The firefly series is amazing! What view does serenity promote? I have, but it’s been a while. The firefly series is amazing!

What view does serenity promote?

]]> By: matt http://www.boldlygo.org/76/comment-page-1#comment-1436 matt Sun, 04 Jan 2009 23:21:12 +0000 http://boldlygo.org/blog/76/#comment-1436 Ever seen serenity? I agree with that movie on this topic. Ever seen serenity? I agree with that movie on this topic.

]]> By: matt http://www.boldlygo.org/76/comment-page-1#comment-434 matt Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:36:08 +0000 http://boldlygo.org/blog/76/#comment-434 Some people do believe that most of the general population, at least in the U.S. , is already being administered at least one drug. And that drug is fluoride. While not a very strong drug in comparison to lets say anti-depressants, fluoride has been proven to have similar effects on the brain. Please correct me if I had my facts wrong there. :-) It's a big possibility, although fluoride definitely effects other things besides our teeth. Although I wouldn't go so strong as something like this; "....When I think of fluoridation, two words come to mind: medical experiment. And the guinea pig is Y-O-U. That's right: Without any solid proof that ingesting fluoride was beneficial for your teeth...I've long been one of America's most popular mythbusters. I make it my mission to reveal the surprisingly inexpensive and easy road to real health...I've been called "the conscience of modern medicine..." http://www.douglassreport.com/reports/fluoride.html gclid=CMuVk_yZ8pUCFQL8iAodeQ5yfg Obviously, that person just wants attention. Fluoride does have proven effects on teeth. Worth the trade off? A possible win win for the government... "Fluoridation, in reference to adding traces of fluorine to drinking water as a public health policy, dates from 1949." -Online Etymology Dictionary,www.etymonline.com As far as fluoride is concern, I don't think there would be much of an outcome if any noticeable one at all. But I don't have enough of a background then to really present any facts other then ones I've read. I think it's surprising, although maybe it shouldn't be, that their is stuff in our water. It effects us already, even if it's hardly recognizable. If we were to be cut off from some drug we didn't know about, we wouldn't be revolting for more, because we didn't know what it was that was making us that way in the first place. No connection between blue water and happiness to us, because we were never given enough information to make the relation between the two. Everyone would just get sick, and\or angry. The doctors would call it an epidemic, the government would give them "flu shots" to help the general population effected by the lack of chemicals... A possible scenario of many that comes to mind for me. Some people do believe that most of the general population, at least in the U.S. , is already being administered at least one drug. And that drug is fluoride. While not a very strong drug in comparison to lets say anti-depressants, fluoride has been proven to have similar effects on the brain. Please correct me if I had my facts wrong there. :-) It’s a big possibility, although fluoride definitely effects other things besides our teeth.

Although I wouldn’t go so strong as something like this;
“….When I think of fluoridation, two words come to mind: medical experiment. And the guinea pig is Y-O-U. That’s right: Without any solid proof that ingesting fluoride was beneficial for your teeth…I’ve long been one of America’s most popular mythbusters. I make it my mission to reveal the surprisingly inexpensive and easy road to real health…I’ve been called “the conscience of modern medicine…” http://www.douglassreport.com/reports/fluoride.html gclid=CMuVk_yZ8pUCFQL8iAodeQ5yfg

Obviously, that person just wants attention. Fluoride does have proven effects on teeth. Worth the trade off? A possible win win for the government…

“Fluoridation, in reference to adding traces of fluorine to drinking water as a public health policy, dates from 1949.” -Online Etymology Dictionary,www.etymonline.com

As far as fluoride is concern, I don’t think there would be much of an outcome if any noticeable one at all. But I don’t have enough of a background then to really present any facts other then ones I’ve read. I think it’s surprising, although maybe it shouldn’t be, that their is stuff in our water. It effects us already, even if it’s hardly recognizable.

If we were to be cut off from some drug we didn’t know about, we wouldn’t be revolting for more, because we didn’t know what it was that was making us that way in the first place. No connection between blue water and happiness to us, because we were never given enough information to make the relation between the two. Everyone would just get sick, and\or angry. The doctors would call it an epidemic, the government would give them “flu shots” to help the general population effected by the lack of chemicals…
A possible scenario of many that comes to mind for me.

]]> By: Kelly http://www.boldlygo.org/76/comment-page-1#comment-436 Kelly Thu, 18 Sep 2008 06:19:54 +0000 http://boldlygo.org/blog/76/#comment-436 Hey there, Mr. J. I'm back once again from the dead. How have you been? Now onto the topic at hand.... I can't say if that is a trend for better or worse. My take on that issue is biased, somewhat, since I have taken Effexor XR in the past for my depression and anxiety disorder. It leveled off my moods while I was on it. Which was good. When I was taken off Effexor, recently, in order to start taking Pristiq (a new anti-depressant), I suffered horrendous withdrawls. Like severe dizziness. I couldn't think, walk or talk properly. It was a nightmare for a long time. By the way, my depression has contributed to my recent departure in regards to posting on my blog. But that's another story. One of my questions, pertaining to mass drug consumption, would certainly be.... What if the population were being administered (secretly or not) a certain mood enhancing drug and then were suddenly cut off? What would be the outcome if that were to happen? Any ideas? Hey there, Mr. J. I’m back once again from the dead. How have you been?

Now onto the topic at hand….

I can’t say if that is a trend for better or worse. My take on that issue is biased, somewhat, since I have taken Effexor XR in the past for my depression and anxiety disorder. It leveled off my moods while I was on it. Which was good.

When I was taken off Effexor, recently, in order to start taking Pristiq (a new anti-depressant), I suffered horrendous withdrawls. Like severe dizziness. I couldn’t think, walk or talk properly. It was a nightmare for a long time.

By the way, my depression has contributed to my recent departure in regards to posting on my blog. But that’s another story.

One of my questions, pertaining to mass drug consumption, would certainly be…. What if the population were being administered (secretly or not) a certain mood enhancing drug and then were suddenly cut off? What would be the outcome if that were to happen? Any ideas?

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